With the high demand for semiconductors causing most companies to focus on their high margin, high profitability components, I wasn’t expecting to see many launches of low-to-mid range hardware for the rest of 2021. AMD has surprised me in announcing its entry and mid-level processors with integrated graphics today, offering up to eight Zen 3 cores and Vega 8 graphics, but AMD is pointing out that these models are for the pre-built system market only right now. AMD has plans to enable a full retail offering for these components, but this will happen later in the year.

Ryzen 5000 Gets a G

AMD’s processors with integrated graphics onboard, known as APUs, have easily identifiable product names because they all end in a G, for graphics I presume. AMD has launched several generations of APUs built upon its Ryzen architecture:

  • Ryzen 2000G (Raven Ridge), built on 14nm Zen with Vega 11
  • Ryzen 3000G (Picasso), built on 12nm Zen+ with Vega 11
  • Ryzen 4000G (Renoir), built on 7nm Zen 2 with Vega 8
  • Ryzen 5000G (Cezanne), built on 7nm Zen 3 with Vega 8

Both 2000G and 3000G offered parts at retail, however we never saw a formal retail launch of Ryzen 4000G. This product line was focused for the pre-built market, especially for business ‘PRO’ use. We ended up obtaining three of the APUs in this market, and put them to the test.

Testing The World’s Best APUs: Desktop AMD Ryzen 4750G, 4650G and 4350G

Today the Ryzen 5000G series comes out to play, again for pre-built systems, but AMD is this time making clear that it will also come to retail for regular systems and gaming systems. These new Ryzen 5000G APUs are built on TSMC’s 7nm process, and will feature eight Zen 3 cores with Vega 8 graphics. All CPUs will also have 24 lanes of PCIe 3.0 and support DDR4-3200.

AMD Ryzen 5000G Series APUs
AnandTech Core /
Thread
Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
*
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 7 5700G 8 / 16 3800 4600 8 2000 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 7 5700GE 8 / 16 3200 4600 8 2000 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 5 5600G 6 / 12 3900 4400 7 1900 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 5 5600GE 6 / 12 3400 4400 7 1900 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 3 5300G 4 / 8 4000 4200 6 1700 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 3 5300GE 4 / 8 3600 4200 6 1700 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 4000G
Ryzen 7 4700G 8 / 16 3600 4400 8 2100 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 7 4700GE 8 / 16 3100 4300 8 2000 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 5 4600G 6 / 12 3700 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 5 4600GE 6 / 12 3300 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 3 4300G 4 / 8 3800 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 3 4300GE 4 / 8 3500 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 35 W
*PCIe lanes on the SoC are listed in GFX+Chipset+Storage

AMD has had several products with Zen 3, including the regular Ryzen 5000 and EPYC 7003 processor lineups, and 5000G will take on the same feature set. This means that AMD will deal with 8-core CCX designs with a unified L3 cache across all the cores within a CCX. While the Ryzen and EPYC processors offer 32 MB of L3 cache for eight cores, the Ryzen 5000G will have 16 MB of L3, but each core will access to the full 16 MB. The Ryzen 5000G series remains a monolithic design.

Users might be disheartened to hear that this is another APU with Vega 8 graphics. AMD made it clear that the jump from 12nm to 7nm gave them a lot of extra frequency, from 1400 MHz to 2100 MHz, which enabled them to optimize for 8 compute units of Vega on 7nm, rather than the 11 compute units on 12nm, and still give a substantial speed-up in performance. AMD’s philosophy with the APU line has been to mix and match what is needed on the product at the right time, and enabling RDNA/RDNA2 on an APU at the same time as changing the CPU core might be a couple of steps too much with a new product. However it is what it is, and the increased L3 cache range for the cores will have a direct knock-on to graphics performance.

The top processor is the Ryzen 7 5700G, built with eight Zen 3 cores, offering a base frequency of 3.8 GHz and a peak turbo of 4.6 GHz. The whole chip has a 65 W TDP, which based on AMD’s socket specifications, means that 88 W is likely to be observed in retail configurations. The Ryzen 5 5600G is a similar design, but with six cores and slightly lower frequencies. The Ryzen 5 5300G is slightly different in that it has only 4 cores, and AMD has cut the L3 cache to 8 MB.

Each of the 5000G processors will have 5000GE counterparts targeting 35 W TDP. This TDP change is reflected in the lower base frequencies and likely a lower sustained power.

These processors have already been spotted inside new Dell pre-built gaming systems. At a time when discrete graphics are hard to come by, and we’ve seen pre-built systems being sold without graphics cards, an injection of APUs might help fill the void. However, APUs might end up going up in price as a result – perhaps why AMD wants to keep them in an OEM configuration for now.

Exact SEP (retail pricing) and retail release dates were not disclosed.

Retail Systems

HP Germany has a system listed, the Omen 25L Desktop GT12-1300ng. Ryzen 7 5700G with an NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti, which makes us wonder what the APU part of the processor is being used for.

Comparing to Desktop CPUs

We've been asked to showcase the difference between the CPUs and APUs.

AMD Ryzen 5600 Variants
AnandTech Core /
Thread
Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
 
L3
MB
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 5 5600X 6 / 12 3700 4600 - - 4.0 x24 32 65 W
Ryzen 5 5600G 6 / 12 3900 4400 7 1900 3.0 x24 16 65 W

If we put side by side the Ryzen 5 5600X, the CPU, with Ryzen 5 5600G, we see a lot of similarities. Both have six cores and 12 threads, both run at 65 W, and both have 24 PCIe lanes.

However, there are a number of differences as well. The 5600X CPU has an extra +200 MHz on the turbo frequency, whereas the 5600G APU has +200 on the base frequency and it also has integrated graphics. On top of this, the CPU has PCIe 4.0 rather than PCIe 3.0, and the CPU has double the cache. If we go up to the 8-core parts, then that disparity changes a little. 

AMD Ryzen 7 5000 Variants
AnandTech Core /
Thread
Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
 
L3
MB
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 7 5800X 8 / 16 3800 4700 - - 4.0 x24 32 105 W
Ryzen 7 5700G 8 / 16 3800 4600 8 2000 3.0 x24 16 65 W

For this comparison, there is no base frequency difference, but the turbo is higher on the CPU. The APU still has the integrated graphics, but is only PCIe 3.0 off the processor and not PCIe 4.0 like the CPU. We still have the cache difference.

So the question is which would you rather have - 100-200 MHz extra CPU frequency, double the L3 cache, and PCIe 4.0, or would you rather have integrated graphics? Interesting times ahead.

Chipset Support

AMD has confirmed that X570, B550, and A520 motherboards will support the new 5000G processors. X470 and B450 motherboards might also be supported, but that depends on the motherboard manufacturer. At this time, for anyone lucky enough to get one on the open market, special Beta BIOSes will be needed to enable full performance.

 

Ryzen 9 5900 and Ryzen 7 5800: New CPUs also OEM Only

Aside from the official APU announcement, two more processors appeared on AMD's list of parts. The Ryzen 9 5900 and Ryzen 7 5800, both without X at the end, are equivalent 65 W parts but set for the OEM market as well. At this time, AMD has not stated if these processors will ever come to retail.

AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors
Zen 3 Microarchitecture
AnandTech Core/
Thread
Base
Freq
1T
Freq
L3
C$
IGP PCIe TDP SEP
Ryzen 9 5950X 16 32 3400 4900 64 MB - 4.0 105 W $799
Ryzen 9 5900X 12 24 3700 4800 64 MB - 4.0 105 W $549
Ryzen 9 5900 12 24 3000 4700 64 MB - 4.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 7 5800X 8 16 3800 4700 32 MB - 4.0 105 W $449
Ryzen 7 5800 8 16 3400 4600 32 MB - 4.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 7 5700G 8 16 3800 4600 16 MB Vega8 3.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 7 5700GE 8 16 3200 4600 16 MB Vega8 3.0 35 W OEM
Ryzen 5 5600X 6 12 3700 4600 32 MB - 4.0 65 W $299*
Ryzen 5 5600G 6 12 3900 4400 16 MB Vega7 3.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 5 5600GE 6 12 3400 4400 16 MB Vega7 3.0 35 W OEM
Ryzen 3 5300G 4 8 4000 4200 8 MB Vega6 3.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 3 5300GE 4 8 3600 4200 8 MB Vega6 3.0 35 W OEM

AMD now has 12 processors in its Ryzen 5000 series family. Eight of them are for pre-built OEM systems only, and four are on retail shelves. 

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  • digitech - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    Really disappointed. Was looking to build a PC this year as my aged Phenom ii x4 doesn't is no longer supported by the latest versions of PhotoShop.

    Held out for the 4700g from AMD and no luck. Then got excited about the 5700G and now I still can't buy one.

    At this point I'll probably go Intel 11700k as it has what I need right now (Good MultiCore with iGPU). Would have liked the AMD with better iGPU but they make it so I cannot buy!
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  • GoldenBullet - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    If you can't wait until the retail release, go 10th gen intel, the price to performance is better than 11th gen. Reply
  • digitech - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    Yeah I may throw the 10700k back in the mix. It's cheap enough Reply
  • Samus - Saturday, April 17, 2021 - link

    I think the real value is the i5-11400. Microcenter has it for $180 (which like everything is way over MSRP) but its actually in stock and available. It's faster than any AMD APU core-for-core due to a variety of reasons, but presumably Vega is die-heavy compared to Xe causing AMD to axe half the cache and reduced the CPU clock speed a bit. It's debatable which processor will excel in graphics tasks (I'd probably favor AMD, even though Xe is pretty impressive especially if you use QuickSync applications) but it's mostly irrelevant: desktop APU's exist to end up in low-end machines like office PC's, HTPC's and family PC's where GPU performance means nothing. The GPU cores exist to save money over buying a video card, which used to be as little as $30-$40 but currently cost at least $100 for even a crap UEFI-compatible PCIe card. Reply
  • Lucky Stripes 99 - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    I just pulled the trigger last week and ordered a gray market 4560G. At first I cursed my timing, but then I started to wonder when we'll actually see these new Zen 3 APUs in retail channels and at what price we'll initially see them. We might not be able to nab them for less than MSRP until late 2022. Reply
  • Valantar - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    I've been extremely happy with the grey-market 4650G in my HTPC for a few months now. The CPU part is complete overkill (4c8t would have been plenty for its use) but I wanted the iGPU. It runs entirely passively most of the time, the entire system peaks at ~110W at the wall, and performance is excellent. No reason to be disappointed in getting a Renoir APU today, even if these will obviously be better still. Reply
  • johnny_boy - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link

    You can buy a 4700g online, e.g. from ebay and China retailers directly, so no need to wait for the 5700g to be available to the non-OEM market. Reply
  • Qasar - Friday, April 16, 2021 - link

    um yea no thanks Reply
  • Zingam - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    Everybody is excited about a Vega class GPU. The best way to beat Intel and NVIDIA out of existence. Reply
  • plonk420 - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    i'd rather have an RDNA2 iGPU, but that might be meh until DDR5 Reply

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