Nokia Lumia 800 & 710, Windows Phones Announced
by Anand Lal Shimpi on October 26, 2011 12:26 AM ESTJust seven months after announcing its intention to move to Windows Phone, Nokia unveiled its first WP based devices: the Lumia 800 and 710.
Both feature the same Qualcomm applications processor: a single-core Snapdragon S2 MSM8255 running at 1.4GHz with 512MB of memory on-package. The 800 has a more expensive chassis and Carl Zeiss optics, while the 710 is cost reduced in those aspects.
The 800 features a 3.7-inch AMOLED (RGBG PenTile) display, 16GB of integrated NAND (no microSD slot) and a 5.365Wh battery. The 800's camera has an 8MP sensor with a Carl Zeiss f/2.2 lens. The camera sensor and lens stack are borrowed from the N9, one of the ways Nokia was able to bring the 800 to market in such a short time after the Microsoft announcement.
I played with the 800 a bit at Nokia World and the feel is easily leaps and bounds beyond any WP devices available today. The 800 will be available in three colors (black, magenta and cyan) while the 710 comes in black and white.
The 710 keeps the screen size the same (3.7-inches) but moves to a standard TFT-LCD. The 710 has the same amount of DRAM as the 800 but it cuts NAND in half to 8GB. Unlike the 800 however the 710 features a microSD card slot that can accommodate up to a 16GB card (24GB total). Battery capacity drops to 4.81Wh. Both models use micro-SIMs.
| Nokia Lumia Windows Phone Lineup | ||||||
| Lumia 800 | Lumia 710 | |||||
| SoC | Qualcomm S2 MSM8255 1.4GHz | Qualcomm S2 MSM8255 1.4GHz | ||||
| Display | 3.7-inch AMOLED PenTile RGBG | 3.7-inch TFT-LCD | ||||
| Camera |
8MP LED flash rear facing camera Carl Zeiss lens |
5MP LED flash rear facing camera | ||||
| Memory | 512MB, 16GB NAND | 512MB, 8GB NAND | ||||
| Dimensions | 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.11 mm, 142g | 119.0 x 62.4 x 12.5 mm, 126g | ||||
| Battery | 5.365Wh | 4.81Wh | ||||
| Network Support |
WCDMA, EDGE Class B, GPRS Class B
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100 |
WCDMA, EDGE Class B, GPRS Class B
WCDMA 900/1900/2100 |
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| Connectivity | 802.11n b/g/n (2.4 GHz), BT 2.1+EDR, USB 2.0 | 802.11n b/g/n (2.4 GHz), BT 2.1+EDR, USB 2.0 | ||||
Nokia announced its unique software bundle available on all Lumia Windows Phones including Nokia Maps and Nokia Music. The former is Nokia's own voice guided, turn by turn navigation app. Nokia Maps allows you to download and preinstall maps ahead of time to avoid streaming map data if you're roaming in another country. Map data can be downloaded on the fly however if necessary.
Nokia Music is a streaming music service that doesn't require a subscription or even so much as a login. You'll be able to stream live mixes as well as save them for offline listening, although Nokia didn't share much about what specific labels/artists would be available via the service. The service will be available in 38 countries - plans for North America will have to wait until NA phones are announced.
Both Nokia apps will come preloaded on all Nokia Windows Phone devices.
The Lumia 800 will be available in six countries in November (UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands). Before the end of the year Nokia will add Hong Kong, India, Russia, Singapore and Taiwan to the list. The Lumia 800 will be available for around 420 Euros.
The 710, priced at 270 Euros, will be available in Hong Kong, India, Russia, Singapore and Taiwan by the end of the year.
Nokia will bring a US-specific lineup to market in early 2012 on multiple carriers. The Lumia family will hit mainland China in the first half of 2012. Nokia also mentioned it has plans to release LTE/CDMA Lumia products but it didn't commit to any timeframe. Based on Qualcomm's roadmaps I'd expect to see LTE devices toward the middle/second half of next year.
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FrederickL - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
.@Brian Klug
I am very curious about the SD-card issue. That facility is not available generally in WP7 phones currently. Why on earth have Nokia included this in the (relatively) budget 710 but not in the (relatively) higher end 800? It does not, on the face of it, appear to make any sense. Any ideas? Given that I might be interested in a Nokia as a replacement for my current reserve mob (and because I am interested in having some extended hands on with WP7) I am inclined to look at the 710 because of the storage issue - even though I could afford the 800 the lack of extra storage is a deal breaker as far as I am concerned.
Best wishes
Fred
marc1000 - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
after looking at the nokia official site, i found that both the 800 and 710 WILL NOT any have sd slot.FrederickL - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
@marc 1000
Yes, I have literally just been looking at the site myself (https://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia... and they say explicitly "no slot for micro-SD cards". Well bang goes that possible purchase then! Unless the Nokia offer an option with their phones with significantly more memory on board they can just forget it as far as I am concerned.
:)
marc1000 - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
i hope nokia will offer a LOT more options soon.... they had the most complete lineup of models with symbian. it makes no sense to have only a few options with windows.bjacobson - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
bad headphone jack location. Unless there's no landscape keyboard in WP7?marc1000 - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
twist it the other way around...FrederickL - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
@Brian Klug
As I am sure you have seen further down the thread Brian, both Marc 1000 and I have seen that the Nokia site (https://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia... explicitly states that the 710 does *not* have a micro-SD slot. What is the source of the confusion here please?
Best wishes
Fred
Landiepete - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
Can't comment on the specs, but I think it's butt ugly. It's like some of those baby toys in bright colors instead of a high end tool.bernardl - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
I haven't played with one yet, but these Nokia sure seem the most exiting they have released in years.As an iPhone 4 and iPad 2 user I am not sure that the iOS UI is really best suited for a phone, WP7 seems superior.
Cheers,
Bernard
shorty lickens - Friday, October 28, 2011 - link
If those pics are correct it seems we finally have proper offline maps! First thing I been excited about in years. Of course we would certainly want loads on on-board or expandable storage to take advantage of that, but its still a nice feature, something lacking from most other manufacturers.As for the above comments: It seems like WP7 has its strongest presence in the U.S. right now, so it really would have made more sense to start distributing here first. Europe may start enjoying WP7 now but its not a sure market.
Also this is the first product I've been genuinely excited for in years, and I really just want it right now.