Apple Mac Pro (Mid 2010) Reviewby Anand Lal Shimpi on October 6, 2010 9:26 PM EST
It’s the fastest Mac you can buy and it's a desktop. These days, the Mac Pro is basically the un-Mac.
For years users have argued that Apple needs a standard Mac. A decent desktop that fills the $1000 - $2000 price range. Apple has refused to entertain the idea for what I can only assume are a number of reasons. At lower price points it’s difficult to justify the Apple tax, thus driving margins lower and ultimately impacting stock price. There’s also the issue of cannibalization. A standard Mac could potentially drive customers away from the iMac and into a Mac + cheap monitor configuration. From Apple’s perspective this probably harms the overall user experience (what if a customer buys an inferior display and uses it with a Mac?) and it only allows Apple to realize profit on a computer, not a computer + display.
This leaves us with the current product lineup. The Mac mini at the low end of the OS X scale, the iMac in the middle and the Mac Pro up top. If you want something high performance without an integrated display but more affordable than the Mac Pro then there’s always the Hackintosh route.
I spend all of this time talking about price because the Mac Pro isn’t cheap. Since its introduction in 2006 the Mac Pro lineup starts at $2499:
|Historical Look at the Mac Pro|
|Late 2006||Early 2008||Early 2009||Mid 2010|
|CPU||2 x Xeon 5150 (2.66GHz - 2C/2T)||2 x Xeon E5462 (2.8GHz - 4C/4T)||1 x Xeon W3520 (2.66GHz - 4C/8T)||1 x Xeon W3530 (2.8GHz - 4C/8T)|
|Memory||2 x 512MB DDR2-667 FB-DIMMs||2 x 1GB DDR2-800||3 x 1GB DDR3-1066||3 x 1GB DDR3-1066|
|Graphics||GeForce 7300 GT||Radeon HD 2600 XT||GeForce GT 120||Radeon HD 5770 1GB|
|Optical||6X DL SuperDrive||8X DL SuperDrive||18X DL SuperDrive||18x DL SuperDrive|
The specs have of course improved tremendously year over year. The Mac Pro was born after Apple decided to migrate to Intel based CPUs. It started with a dual-socket Conroe based Xeon, later saw an upgrade to Clovertown and then in 2009 moved to Nehalem. This summer Apple updated the hardware to Westmere, Intel’s current 32nm architecture.
While there were only two configurations for the Mac Pro (4 and 8 core), Westmere adds a third model: a 12-core Mac Pro priced at $4999. Of course there are build to order options in between all three of them.
|Mid-2010 Mac Pro Lineup|
|CPU||1 x Xeon W3530 (2.8GHz - 4C/8T)||2 x Xeon E5620 (2.4GHz - 4C/8T)||2 x Xeon X5650 (2.66GHz - 6C/12T)|
|Memory||3 x 1GB DDR3-1066||6GB DDR3-1066||6GB DDR3-1333|
|Graphics||Radeon HD 5770 1GB||ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB||ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB|
|Hard Drive||1TB||1TB 7200RPM SATA||1TB 7200RPM SATA|
|Optical||18x DL SuperDrive||18x DL SuperDrive||18x DL SuperDrive|
Estimating the “Apple Tax”
Despite the high cost of entry, historically the Apple tax has been nonexistent on the Mac Pro. I shopped around Dell and HP’s websites to see if I could find similarly configured systems to the new Mac Pro. For the most part Apple was priced identically if not cheaper than Dell and HP for both the single and dual-socket Mac Pros:
|Estimating the Apple Tax on the 2010 Mac Pro|
|Apple Mac Pro||Dell Precision T5500||Custom Built|
|CPU||2 x Xeon E5620 (2.4GHz quad-core 12MB L3)||2 x Xeon E5620 (2.4GHz quad-core 12MB L3)||2 x Xeon E5620 (2.4GHz quad-core 12MB L3)|
|Memory||6GB DDR3-1066||6GB DDR3-1333||Kingston 6GB DDR3-1333|
|Graphics||ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB||ATI FirePro V8700 1GB||Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB|
|Hard Drive||1TB 7200RPM SATA||1TB 7200RPM SATA||WD Caviar Black 1TB 7200RPM SATA|
|Optical||18x DL SuperDrive||16X DVD +/- RW||LG 24X DVD +/- RW|
|Notes||$249 for 3-year warranty||3 year warranty standard||Includes Corsair Obsidian 700D case at $249.99, Antec 750W PSU, ASUS Z8NA-D6C Motherboard at $259.99|
$3499 + $249 for 3 year warranty
|$3895||$1752.90 + OS|
The Dell comes with a more expensive video card since there wasn’t an option for a Radeon HD 5770 class part. Other than that the two systems are similarly configured and there’s no real price premium for the Mac. You can obviously save a ton of money if you don’t need a dual-socket, eight-core beast but if you’re buying in this class of products Apple is price competitive. This isn’t anything new. I ran the same comparison in our first Mac Pro review and came out with similar results.
There’s effectively no “Apple tax” on the Mac Pro.
Update: Dell doesn't offer a Radeon HD 5770, instead you get a much more expensive FirePro V8700 graphics card. If deduct the street price for the graphics card from each machine, the Mac Pro ends up being $324 more expensive than the Dell. The Apple tax is there, but masked by the cheaper GPU.
Update 2: There's one more key difference in the specs. The Dell comes with a 3 year warranty vs. Apple's 1 year warranty. To get 3 years from Apple you need to purchase the $249 Apple Care add-on. Also, as many have pointed out, Dell can offer significant discounts over the phone. Apple can offer large discounts as well if you are an educational or business customer.
Where you can save a ton of money building your own however. A quick look through Newegg gave us a similar configuration to the Apple and Dell systems for $1612.91 plus the cost of the OS.
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Zokudu - Wednesday, October 6, 2010 - linkA Mac Pro has been tempting me for years. It seems like such a wonderful machine. Anand would you say getting a Mac Pro over saw a build it your own of the same caliber is worth it? I can understand if your deeply ingrained into the Apple system but for an outsider does it hold a lot of value?
brausekopf - Thursday, October 7, 2010 - linkJust buy a 999$ Mac Book or maybe a used one and check it out for yourself!
I am just using a Mac Book Pro as a development system targeting the iPhone. And after having used many Windows versions and many Unix flavors I would not put Mac OS on the top of my list. But it is usable.
xype - Thursday, October 7, 2010 - linkWeird, after using OS X, I wouldn't even put Windows or Linux on my list. :P
rqle - Thursday, October 7, 2010 - linkfriend recommended i try osx. my day job is all unix, and osx annoy the shit out of me.
Flunk - Friday, October 8, 2010 - linkIf you're used to Unix, Linux is probably the best bet for a desktop OS.
B3an - Thursday, October 7, 2010 - linkNo idea why anyone who is capable of building there own system would buy an over priced Mac. Theres nothing special or magical about them regardless of Apple advertising. They just use PC components. Learn to "Think Different" ... or rather think for yourself.
You can not only get faster hardware, but also higher quality hardware for the same sort of price as a Mac Pro. Not to mention a graphics card that's actually good and a fully capable and more advanced OS.
marioyohanes - Monday, October 11, 2010 - linkBecause I want everything to become simple so I can focus more on my job rather than busy fixing this and that from my computer. Simple thing should remain simple, while complex thing should be simpler than ever.
at least that's my opinion...
zero2dash - Monday, October 11, 2010 - link"Because I want everything to become simple so I can focus more on my job rather than busy fixing this and that from my computer. Simple thing should remain simple, while complex thing should be simpler than ever."
Sounds like you should spend more than 10 minutes putting one together with shoddy parts or bother stress testing your overclock - then you might not have to fix anything either.
The only computers I have to "fix" these days are prebuilts with the garbage psus that usually crap out in the 2-3 year window. Gateway, Dell, HP etc. doesn't matter, they all use crap psus. If they actually used something decent like a cheaper Antec or Seasonic, they'd run practically forever.
TD912 - Monday, January 3, 2011 - linkThat's kind of what he means. You need to spend the time to build and test and tweak everything instead of having something that is ready to use out of the box.
cotak - Friday, October 15, 2010 - linkThat's because you never opened one up right? Never owned one and used it day to day?
If Dell, or any of the built it yourself case vendors do cases like the Mac Pro they'll charge you more then apples does for the same hardware.
It's like saying why buy a BMW 323 over say an accord. the BMW's a basic car, doesn't have a lot of features, doesn't have a lot of power. And no it's not for everyone. But by god it rotates on corners vs feeling like the front's going to fly off. That's why my brother basically drove one for 10 minutes and decided to buy it.
That's what apple brings to the laptop, the desktop and the smart phone.
If you never had the money to buy one or work where they give you one, you'll never know.